Simple vote if they are OP or not, then state why you believe so

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No a dragon is not. aside the fact from fast levels they are just another hero that can be simply micro'd peoples problems are they are too lazy to do so.

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i know they're OP beause one single unit shouldnt be able to ALWAYS turn the tide of battle in the users favor.

prime example is COW. soon as he steps on to battlefield the units he controls are more than likely to kill whatever there facing.

Dragons should be a support unit, giving a slight edge. not something that should destroy whole armies with its presense
they should be a support unit, not a unit that can always make the person

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if we got technical, a dragon could massacre armies unless they had ANTI dragon stuff.

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i think ensnare should work on dragon uz it seems only ppl who have purge or cripple can stop them. also there lvl 10 ult should be given at 15 instead

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if those changes are made then it will be fine, but i think lvl 12 might be sufficient level to get ur ultimate seeing as getting to 15 actually does TAKE A WHILE

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thats kinda the point of making therm get it at 15. the drags will die b4 then thus making it worth the 150 gold they are, and it will either make people micro harder to keep em alive, or not use em at all

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yea but alot of people, target dragons as soon as they see it and from 1-10 if anyone has stun or cripple the second ur dragon is in range its gone.

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How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

thats actually a valid point lol...

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frecking WORD.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

Just make the black dragon a dragon hunting dragon!

Bar har har.

I do like the idea of different dragons having different specialties. I usually prefer the red over the bronze because you can cast rain of fire from a safe distance and the fireball stun is invaluable at killing heros and interrupting channeling spells.

 

lol a dragon that hunts dragons? that almost sounds pointless.

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wtf no they rnt, r u dumb? u must suck if u think so. dragons are NOT op.

 

there is no anti-dragon stuff... THAT THE POINT!

Ok want a example of something OP? Lets say for 1000 gold u get a 9999 hp unit that does 9999 splash damage in a 10k AoE. But everyone one can get it so its not OP right?


Ok id like u 2 play with out a dragon for a week then come back here and say it again.

if dragons could use items they be better then some heros

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to bad dragons dont do that much damage and dont have that much healthpoints shocker, a healing ward can take out rain of fire. so does with bronze ulti 100 damage every 5 seconds.

you are pathetic shocker.

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lol the fact that this wouldnt be able to be killed makes it OP, you CAN kill a dragon with your DRAGON and range... 95% of the people that are pro and play BA are capable of getting sufficient range to kill the dragon and if you had your own dragon it would be vice versa makeing it a valid unit.

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yes dao but saying everyone can get one does not make it not OP.

But i think a counter is what is needed funny how only a few poeple WHO CONSTANTLY NEED the dragons to make all the difference are so against them. IF there was a counter than the person using it would still have to micro it to kill the dragon ADDING MORE MICRO so if laziness to micro was the issue this counter WOULD NOT AFFECT ANYTHING so to be SCARED of having a counter for a dragon would goes against the whole it is just laziness against microing.

ALSO if they arent that good and dont do much than why ARE YOU arguing to not have a counter??

to not want a counter means they are VERY useful and VERY much a game changer.

IF someoine has cripple and IF someone has stun are IF'S so not a valid counter that everyone can use.

LOL and emps "you will want a pallies counter" is rediculous can only melee or only range attack pallies??? i think not. do pallies cast MULTIPLE spells that affect MASS amount of troops??? i think not. So that was a useless comparison.

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@ark i said that cause pallies dont need a counter as seeing as they are fine..just as dragons.

ofcourse u can play without upgrades vs noobs.
ofcourse u can play without generators vs pros.
But u cant play without every trick in the game infact ofcourse, dragons vs zuey thats beein said its a part of the game.
why would u net them ? its not like it would stop them from casting spells, im i wrong? . Dragons ultis can be countered by wards. u think the roar is taking to much % away?-maybe.
and why dont u try to make the map better like posting something productive..instead of things like. im losing lets find a reason...dragons can fly..lets say they are op and net them down even if they can still use spells.
Also if there are nets, then i think there should be a set of dispell like in ladder.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

I would be fine with nets being magic and dispelable when did i ever say my losing was based on dragons?? I HAVE said that dragons make me not want to play that is entirely different. Also I dont care that they can still cast spells that is FINE but at least ground units could attack them. Also with wards being 5hp the reign of fire kills them so they cannot counter that way anymore(i do like the wards only being 5hp though)

And again generators can be attacked by all units not just by some. wether u use a generator or not does not HAVE to be countered with another generator it can simply be destroyed by ANY attacking units.

So with net that makes it possible for the dragon to be attacked on the ground i think it would be fine also the net can be a timed thing(as in the dragon or other units in the army cut if open and free it) that would make sense as well.

And as to why you would net them is because so something other than ONLY ranged units can attack them in a PLAUSIBLE manner just having melee being able to attack them would make no sense so a net is a simple fix that makes sense.

I know you can tele the dragon out and if u choose to do so all the power to ya but it still makes it a possibilty that part of your army goes too and the dragon being gone(wether dead or just teled out) can shift the balance ALL this just adds MORE micro to the game so it does not go against what you are claiming to want.

Thanks for replying in a more reasonable manner as well its debate about things that will solve problems and improve gameplay not just angry statements from both sides.

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its not the fact that i can't play w/o a dragon because i can, i just think they arent OP But i guess, they could use a "countering item" to give people who dislike using a dragon a chance.

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Agree.

 

So I was thinking about dragons and why they are so good. I know this sounds dumb but it dawned on me is that they are so good because they can fly. Well duh. Broken Alliances is a game where the units are ground based. The terrain is made for ground battles choke points etc. I have two points I want to make 1st Dragons force players (at least they should to diversify their units i.e. get range. Though it is still hard to kill a players dragon when that player is careful.

2nd point I think a net is a great idea. Let the melee get a chance to fight the dragon. I do think however the player can keep the dragon out of range of the net thrower but i agree with what has been said about needed another way to stop a dragon besides cripple.

 

cripple by far isnt the only thing that can, if you have a stun hero + ur own dragon you can almost keep a continuous stun on your opponents dragon.

ALSO ICE ARCHERS SLOW DRAGONS TOO... idk how many times i've been caught by them and lost my dragon

then of course theres purge and cripple.

Now 3 units in the game have ice archers. PATHAS has an ice attack Und Hero has NOVA.

Dwarf hero and Blitz are stun heros and your own dragon if you decide to get one.

And for cripple and purge all together i believe there are about 8 or so units that have these spells, SO YES there are valid counters.

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omg dao u are arguin the same thing over and over again without making any VALID points. Turambar gets it and once there are nets available I can almost garauntee that I will start using dragons again. IT IS A BALANCE ISSUE I have stated the whole its a flying unit and only SOME units and hero's can attack it only which is UNBALANCED a net gives a CHANCE for the person unlucky in heros or bases or cash poor or behind in a dragon purchase to do something it ADDS MICRO so the too lazy thing is BULL**** and needs to stop being said as a point as it is NOT CORRECT its just the heavy dragon users only stance and it DOESNT MAKE SENSE if u use a net its more micro for the dragon user and for the person who is trying to kill it. I think the fact that it makes someone have to pay MORE attention to their dragon is your real issue.

SO laziness is not a valid point to push on those who want nets. None of you who love the current way want more micro thats why you prefer it the way it is. IT DOES NOT REDUCE MICRO!!

Also LMAO your saying that one person with a dragon and stun hero can stop a dragon, so your saying the other guy wont be trying or doing the same thing???? where is the logic in that statement?? of course they will be trying/doing the same thing.

all other purchased units can be attacked BY ALL units so why cant a dragon be netted?? dragon slayers and netting even FALL WITHIN the game and storyline and era/type. All LOGIC points to having a counter of some sort.

If you are a good microer than your dragon shouldnt be caught much but you will have to pay attention and MICRO MORE. Also if you read my and emps last posts each you can see that more REASONABLE details regarding the net are being discussed and figured out.

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How about adding a dispell set with abit bigger AoE then priests dispell.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

we have mana and heal wards that do 2% the only thing i dont know how to deal with when it comes to dispel wards or items is how to moderate it. Since u cant put a percentage on it.

Do you mean like the dooms purge spell?? that does a selected area?

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exactly like a set of 3.
that could help vs bloodlust lighting cripple. i think that would be fine price 50

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

Lol i know its more micro, i never said it wasnt, i stated that some people are actually TO LAZY TO micro a unit, you have said it on several occasions yourself that your lazy.

And where in any of my posts did i disagree with nets? I ACTUALLY AGREED about them my argument was that i do NOT think that dragons are OP.

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Raain of fire does not kill wards. IMO dragons are a fun challenge to kill. **** nets. A dragon is forced to expose itself when it casts fear and it's ulti, u take those opportunities to kill em. Btw why are u guys complaining abt them NOW? They have been around FOREVER

 

because they got bored and tought they make the game more Simply. instead of working on new things.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

A net isnt new? wierd it seems to be, you guys are all now just scared of having to micro more it does not make the game more simple at all it makes it MORE complex, a net isnt some autocastable thing that prevents the dragon from being used all it does is give a chance for someone not range strong AT THE TIME for whatever reason(and there are many) to not lose all their ground units because they they cant hit the ONE flying unit in the game.

And my point is dao that me being lazy does not mean nets will benefit me than since it is MORE micro so the point u all tried to use made no sense.

And for someone who is for nets you sure argue bassackwards for it.

As I have stated and voted I DO NOT THINK DRAGONS ARE OP just that they NEED a counter.

So all u net haters quit being scared of more micro and DON'T be LAZY yourselves

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Also i found something kinda funny. Zuey says: you get dragons to COUNTER mass range (which i dont disagree. dragons do rape range with there low hp and normaly fighting in chokes)
So how does range counter dragons again?
we tried for this 2 weeks ago, other people complained

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If dragons actually stayed in battle long enough to get killed i;d actually think you made a valid point. This is my depiction of microing a dragon.
.=enemy <=dragon ,=owners men
dragon crosses enemy line & uses fear
...<....,,,,
1 second later
.....,,,,,<
1 more second later reign of fire
...,.,.,.,<.,,
wash rinse repeat.

there is no micro in using dragons, they just kill and when people try to target them you get depiction 3. only units that are gonna rape them are gonna have purge cripple or slow, if you notice all those spell slow the unit.

Second.....
Cents-75 dmg at lvl 6 ups. nerfd
babytaurens-650 health and nearly same dmg as regular taurens. nerfd
Mines-around forver with wide radius. thnx to herohopin roc ba players. Nerfd
Cow... lvl 4 endurance aura=perma bloodlust..... yet to be nerfd
Pitlords...... removed lol
Kodos.....thanks to tft players going on roc.... armor system added. aka nerfd
Scouts.....nerfd
Wardens......Nerfd
Assassins......nerfd
Cripple......yet to be nerfd. or left souly on dooms.

point there alot of things have been in BA. only takes one smart person and one post on pollama for light to shine on the mass or ability, and before you know it abuse.

all units with Ensnare should be able to net it. Then raiders will get some shine.

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just because zuey says the snow is green doesnt mean its true.

id still like to see it added, people always complain about something they cant handle

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

Lol ark you know this entire time i've been arguing the point that dragons are NOT OP, which you just agreed with, it seems were on same terms but different viewpoints of the terms lol...

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Lol dao well I have NEVER said they are OP just that they need a counter.

And EMP lol can't handle?? so when bases were overpowered or units it was that YOU just couldnt handle them??? The whole game is about balance so to say other people just can't handle them is not a point at all basically what you are saying is that the first version should NEVER have changed because ALL the stuff that was changed was because certain people couldn't handle whatever the issue was .

If that logic was applied to everything we would still be using sticks as our primary tool living in caves and trees with no technology at all.

Do you wear clothes in public because you can't handle being naked? Do you learn in school because you can't handle being uneducated? Do you change the windows in the house to be more efficient and save money on the heating bill because you can't handle paying what the bill is now? Change happens. Eventually I think you will see nets and than you will just have to DEAL with the extra micro that it causes.

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ARK. Shocker replyed to my idea for dispell. that had nothing to do with op units or anything u just said. noobs always complain about little things. there are people at east that cant handle wards.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

MY bad than i just saw the zuey thing about dragons you responded too thought that is what you meant i too like the idea of a pack of dispel wards

Would a dispel ward dispel your own healing and mana wards? and would it dispel the enemies dispel wards?? just out of curiosity.

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lol why does no1 respond to the points i make. am i that convincing?

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seeing as dispel, DISPELS everything in a certain area it would be weird for it not to dispel your own units...

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that does not answer my specific qustions dao it is a guess, the especially interesting one is if it dispel older dispel wards or do they cancele each other out?

And what points black

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the snow thing was about the zuey thing...

anyway dispell wards? its a set of wards as u can buy at shops in ladder games... they dispell like priests do.. dispell wards would be weird oO

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

No, u get get an item that you can use 3 times and works like dispell from priests or dooms.

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ah k that makes more sense lol

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i voted yes, because they can't be countered...
Some bases can ofc counter them & easily do it, but if you are stuck with celen & bloodlord, and some pro guy next to you got a fed dragon, you'll be in trouble, (atleast the non-pros, including my self), as most of the low tier ranged, is of absolutly no use against a dragon.

 

Celen has archers and there not HORRIBLE...

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Yeah, 11.7 Base DPS is some tough ****.

 

lol, if it can hit a dragon then it is fine with me.

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again dao you argue for the side of the dragon lovers who think its ok 11.7dps will not kill a dragon that is being micro'd by someone of half intelligence(like me). And havin to waste gold on a ****ty unit like celen archer to MAYBE have a chance at a dragon goes AGAINST strategy, aside from the fact u would have to mass spawn only them to kill a dragon and lose to the rest of the army while doing it.

If you have half a brain and aren't just trying to suck up to someone the dragon needs a counter its simple enough that all the 8-10 year olds who play should even understand that.

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you cant win with medium defence celen defenders alone, everyone should know that therefore u cap a ranged base for support.
if facing a dragon y dont u just buy one there and youll be fine...but whatever.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

again as stated a million times before range bases dont just lie around waiting to be taken, if it was so easy for everyone to JUST do what was needed than EVERYBODY would win all the time which is IMPOSSIBLE so you can tell people what they should TRY and ATTEMPT to do IF POSSIBLE. Which is good and helpful but still doesnt address that the dragons NEED a COUNTER.

LOL it so funny that people don't want nets that is a TRUE INDICATION that they need the dragons to be hard to counter just so they can ABUSE them. Just like with the latest version you heard people saying wardems and scouts were ruined but IN REALITY they were corrected and you can't just use them alone to win games anymore.

People complained about manpower because they couldnt mass anymore it was broken and needed to be fixed but people claimed "well you could just mass this instead to counter that mass" which is what you would need to do but was not always possible especially for EVERYONE to do it in the same game.

The fact that there is so much complaining about introducing nets is HILARIOUS. As emp pointed out you can still cast the dragons spells and you can tele it out so if you are any good at all you should be able to save your dragon and nets should mean nothing to you except a chance to get them when you havent had a chance to get one yet or yours dies or your hero with stun is dead IF YOUR LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A HERO OF THAT TYPE.

As it is right now you can fly a dragon over cast fear and pull back. The best microer in the world with range that DOES NOT have slow/ice/cripple(which means most range!!) can put all their range on it but that will not kill it if they cast and fly back. Right now there are no real counters to that UNLESS YOU GET LUCKY. You even have to get lucky to cap a good counter hoping someone hasnt done so already or mained it from the start or burned it in their travels. A SIMPLE net means EVERYONE has a chance to defend.

Dragons level fast and can be full EASILY before certain bases or mains should have to or need to purchase or cap range anyways.

This is the reason certain players buy dragons right away because they KNOW this and they argue against a valid counter because they don't want to deal with actually having to worry about this advantage actually not being so great anymore. They don't want to deal with the extra micro and as some people have pointed out above this game is about micro and quit trying to ruin it. Even though they were arguing against nets HAHAHAHAHAHA which IS against micro.

Daogin "if we got technical, a dragon could massacre armies unless they had ANTI dragon stuff. "

it isnt technical you said what is exactly the problem lol it's an obvious no brainer.

Daogin "aside the fact from fast levels they are just another hero that can be simply micro'd peoples problems are they are too lazy to do so."

again nets would add micro the issue IS NOT the micro and this isnt hero wars so a second hero for 150 is rediculous.

Myth)I(Anubis "because they got bored and tought they make the game more Simply. instead of working on new things."

read above more items is more micro not less and makes the game more in depth and complicated not simplified. By that argument dragons being put in the game made it more simple just because it was an item that got put in the game.

Myth)I(Perseus "wtf no they rnt, r u dumb? u must suck if u think so. dragons are NOT op." LMAO at least try to make a point?? a blind statement without any facts or reasons just hurts your argument and proves yourself wrong if you cannot think of one. Also OP wasnt the only other answer on the poll if you all thought about it for a second they just need a counter.

Turambar "How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced"

He sees the light as his second post proves.

Turambar "So I was thinking about dragons and why they are so good. I know this sounds dumb but it dawned on me is that they are so good because they can fly. Well duh. Broken Alliances is a game where the units are ground based. The terrain is made for ground battles choke points etc. I have two points I want to make 1st Dragons force players (at least they should to diversify their units i.e. get range. Though it is still hard to kill a players dragon when that player is careful.

2nd point I think a net is a great idea. Let the melee get a chance to fight the dragon. I do think however the player can keep the dragon out of range of the net thrower but i agree with what has been said about needed another way to stop a dragon besides cripple. "

Finally someone agreed with the fact that they are a FLYING unit unlike ANY other in the game only CERTAIN units can attack it. Not even all hero's can attack flying units. While for an optional quest this isnt bad but when it is becoming the norm or needed thing to be able to counter flying enemies than there should be something that ALL PLAYERS CAN GET REGARDLESS OF THE HERO OR BASE YOU START WITH.

I would quote tiredofexcuses2 and counter what he said if he hadnt deleted his post for some STRANGE reason hmm wonder what that could be . . . . . .

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hm we could make it like that the sword of halkus could make the hero able to shoot at air, like in ladder dunno if this works for roc tho

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

Good points Ark. People really hate change. I think you win for longest post.

 

why do you keep arguing the same thing that i've already agreed to you, IM ALL FOR NETS as a counter i've stated that tons of times, i just dont think dragons are all that OP.

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I was bored and felt like ranting earlier today lol.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

simple solution...... make ensnare be able to hit them. this means trappers will be used along with raiders. that's now more bases that has units able to kill them.

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yes but thats still only a few new units black and in total would be 15 main counters or so.

and lol at that ark, i read some of it too and was like lullz

Also, most people pushed no because the question is if they are OP not if they should have a valid counter such as a net you can buy from a supply depot.

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dont know if dragons are effected by healing wards but if they are why not change this. This means dragons would have to run away, take a good bit of time to heal and then come back.

 

lol like shredders.

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theres a thing called healing tents, it would just require you to drag a peon everywhere

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do healing tents heal shredders? just make them unhealable. there must be a way to do it.

apart from the technicalities do you think that would balance them?

 

no not really if you want to " balance " the dragon first of all make the ulti lvl 15, so it takes actually a WHILE to get your pwning skill and allow a buyable net for supply depot.

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you know i already stated tha dao. but my damn post keep gettin bumped by ore pointless rambling.

Solution to dragons.

Ulti at lvl 15
units that have ensnare should be able to net it.
that way there are now 7 more bases that has a unit that can kill it. (raiders and troll trappers will actually be used now.

the bases
Tog lagog-raider
Dotar-raider
Tishlak-raider
hordehall-raider
iceblock-trapper
riverun-trapper
trollash-trapper

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lol ICEBLOCK i will now refer to that base by that name.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

Lmfaoooo i didnt see that

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i think no, but they are annoying when their not on your side

 

Do you guys remember the old days, of camping in a base with meele or range and being unkillable? The only reason I think dragons need to stay the way they are is that they prevent campers from making the game last hours longer than it needs to. I bet ever pro here has had a game were a dragon prevented a masser from sitting in his base, because of rain of fire. If nets are added dragons will be to easy to surround... If you guys really want to complain, y not just make them a ground unit instead.

 

well that fixes the issue as well its the fact that half(rough guess) of the units and heros cant even attack the unit. If every unit can attack than that is fine too, having a flying hero is BOGUS.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

to the unregistered cat: arts prevented camping too.

once again..... we dont need nets. just more units that are able to kill them. ensnare should be able to hit them. simple as that.

nets would be bad to my playing style anyways. my inventory always consist of
4 healin wards---always gotta be prepared for long battles
1 sentry ward---never want to get mined ever again.(unless i have pathas)

so a net would cut me 3 wards which is gone in seconds

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black u know commanders can hold/use items too

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Tired of the current BA heros? Post ideas for new heros, or just an ideal for a spell for a hero.
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http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

 

see shock if officers actually dropped items on death. mabey then i'd make em carry items

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its still another option black for more items which is all u have suggested by making a "few" more units able to hit the dragons. The purchased second hero needs to be able to be hit by ALL units not just some. This isnt set the game up so blacks playing style is ok its make the game balanced.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

the ****..no second hero please.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

rofl

Hes calling the dragon a 2nd hero, because that is what it is.

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http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

 

ah okay then it should pop up with a hero picture in the window?

oh yea it DIES to often thats why its not...

to hard to kill it, yet he dies to often for that

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

shocksock make a poll with each option of possible ways to nefr
1-make it a ground unit(0 collision size so it can move freely)
2-units with ensnare should be able to hit it.
3-dragon nets at supply center
4-ulti at lvl 15
5-no nerf at all

i believe those are all things people are pushing for in this thread

edit:ark sucks

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if you have the dragon as a ground unit though(which i like) i thhe dragon users will whine even more than the net idea because they don't like to micro or are too lazy too and prefer to have a unit hovering so that only a select few can hit it. If its not a second hero than take away all but one or two spells like other non hero units. It's better than half the hero's out there right now which is an obvious thing to notice and couple that with not being able to be hit hit by half the units/heros in the game.

make crassus float on a magical cloud and not be able to be hit by ground units see if there is any problems with that.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

Dragons are supposed to fly in medival! ranged units are supposed to hunt them, and raiders or trappers were supposed to kill em !

i like the net at unit and have no problem with ulti at lvl 15 but the rest is stupid
dragon dont go trough water and building like ghosts!;D

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

and for the second time i agree withe emp. ult at 15 and nets from trappers n raiders should hit them

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ok if dragons are supposed to fly in medievil that is true and fine but in medievil NETS WERE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE THAN. Or have a purchasable unit called a dragonslayer they were in MEDIEVIL too. Facts with facts not just some conveniant things for the people scared of dragons dieing.

you have dragons u need dragon slayers

dragons are purchasable in this scenario so purchaseable dragon slayers and make them cost the same and have as many spells including a net or ensare spell for AIR units.

That keeps with the facts and theme of medievil.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

raiders + trappers=dragonslayer.
catas hit dragons? as in medi?

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

First, it's spelled medieval.

Second, medieval =/= fantasy.

n00bs.

 

still only certain units emp doesnt fix the problem.

and this isnt english 101 lohen, u gonna be zueys bitch in the tourney??

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!

 

Dragons are OP cos u have to have range units to kill it, if your melee your screwed. They should be replaced by another unit that uses the same attacks and is ranged but not flying, therefore melee army can kill it.

K1N3T1C

 

GREAT IDEA. 100% Agree

K1N3T1C

 

dont start a discussion again, this should be closed as we agreed that dragons ARENT op and just need a possible counter,range or nets.

if your that nooby and run around with JUST MEELE, then i cant help you.

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Originally Posted by Turambar13 How can something be overpowered when every single player has the opportunity to get that something. If you have a dragon i can get one too. Thats balanced

 

Lmfao if u only have melee in BA for the whole game u shuldnt be playing it at all.

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guess i should quit then since imma doom masser

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Yes, they are. But just for one reason: their full health regeneration when they gain a level. Fix it, and they will become useful units, but not overpowered.

 

first person to post on pollama since its back woooot

((Stubby: Next time, at least say something constructive in addition to the celebrating. Good job though!))

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btw sugar lol ok if u want to get nerdy about it it wasnt random bowmen in a army that would slay dragons it would be heros and agan my biggest beef with dragons in this game is the fact that there is some melee heros that cant do one thing to hurt them so fn stupid and like ark i have same complaints to about how much they can do and how non mass range armys have little chance of killin them and u shouldnt have to base building your army to def agianst one unit and theres way to many op combos with heros and drags leo tarjin and torns heros make it so hard to kill and with red dragon and nova hero u can kill like 10 units at a time and pathas starfall and bronze dragon r really strong together or if there kept the same they should cost 500 150 is way way to cheap at least if they cost 500 it would matter way more to kill one and the defense that well u can target drags with other drags is stupid all that does is waste time

 

i think if u have two broze dragons. plus dangrash and seer its op

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I never liked bronze dragons but heres and idea:
Chaos Dragon:
Meteor (ultimate) - infernal balls of flaming rock come down from the heavens dealing minor damage and causing units to be stunned.

Inferno - 1, 2, 3 (based on level) infernal beings crash down from the heavens stunning the units around where they land. (make them small and weak like treants that the keeper summons, main point if for stunning effect.)

Then the last 2 abilities are the same as the other dragons, hardened skin and that roar thing.
I was thinking if this was too op you could always make it a quest, where you buy a red and bronze dragon and take it to a shrine that merges them into a chaos dragon egg or something. then it would cost 300 gold each time as well as be a pain to get to the shrine.

A good spot for the shrine would be at that little length of empty space in the trees by Cel Danels normal mode starting place.

 

um the red dragon already does this

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Clan Kla

 

The red dragon doesnt spawn units, and in the spawning stun groups of units, and it doesnt have a meteor shower that stunns units, the abilities stun masses the red dragon can only stun 1 unit at a time with firebolt.

Chaos Dragon

This is an example although i probably made the rain of chaos move too powerful (10 strikes of 150 damage spawninf dummy units that last 3 seconds)

 

lol that sounds so OP its not even funny.

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But its a good idea, i mean leo had 4 dragon ideas and only like the two in the map, i think this would make a great addition, after its edited of course, the one i made was a rough draft of what they could do. besides, using the same dragons all the time is getting boring.

 

No nerf to dragons.
Final say! Hammered!

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luigi read and pay attention no one asked for a nerf(of any importance that is) being able to buy a unit in game that only SOME of the units can attack and half of the units that can attack it are USELESS to spawn means it is unbalanced, a purchasable net, or a dragonslayer unit basically the opposite of the dragon is needed. Which still doesnt put it on even ground it just makes it closer seeing as the net would be temporary and the dragon could still cast spells, and a dragonslayer unit would be able to be attack by ALL units UNLIKE the dragon. If its lore and time frame fine but nets and slayers would be in there too.

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A flying hero in Broken Alliances does that sound unbalanced? If so than you agree with needing a counter for dragons!