Balance Issues - Page 3

althardt · 11-19-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by shocker

well if it make you happy, alts on a mission to kill me with only a dragon...

Hes failed so far

ur going down shocks

Daogin · 11-19-2009

I could kill u with dragon and hero.

shocker · 11-20-2009

why would you kill glentol with a dragon? If they only have melee you can kill them with ships, and its faster. (yes its possable, and funny when noobs bitch and complain wanting 2 know how u did it)

I get a felling that one game im gona get attaked by 11 dragons...

Dao the point is only dragon no hero's unless it can fly. Can you possess harppies? Not sure if u can possess air units.

ArkhanIV · 11-20-2009

Dragon wars have officially been declared on THE SOCK!! This should be a BA community event.

12-04-2009

From the changelog... Heroes can't be targeted? If so thats pretty stupid, theres nothing wrong with targeting, people just whine a lot about it because its a cheap, but effective strat that should be done

Daogin · 12-04-2009

heros arent automatically targeted. you have to manually target them with ur units.

12-04-2009

Duh.. I know that, that wasn't my question -.-

priceofpower · 12-08-2009

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Originally Posted by r00rBA

The Master Warriors in version .86 have heavy armor and are an indomitable force even in the hands of marginal players. In the hands of a good player, it becomes impossible for any other force to prevail, except through luck or stupidity. Or possession of an equivalent force of master warriors.

The Centaurs are probably the only potential counter to this due to magic damage, but they are too vulnerable and expensive to be reliable.

A potential solution would be to revert range form MW armor to medium, or increase the price to around 300, and increase the manpower cost to 300. I've played many games of .86 and each time have either dominated or been pwned by MWs. I utilized various combinations of melee (Riders, Ents, C-Ents and Wendigoes) and support units, as per my usual strategies, and tried to leverage some of the new mechanics, but nothing worked. Even a force of C-Ents backed up by centaurs with a numerical advantage and equivalent upgrades got rocked on the open field (this should never happen.)

Simply put, MWs == OP. NERF!

I like the idea but there are no means of reacting quickly to different weapon/armor combos, and generalizing too much results in either annoyingly extended gameplay (2+ hours), or significant random advantages to people who get lucky in their base selection.

Keep up the good work, King Leo!

ur a moron glentol is one...hammer throwers another ..centars...liches ....sometimes assasins will just kill right through due to high attk and mw's low health...u could mine them
i think mws are fine the way they are

shocker · 12-08-2009

hey guess what.... THAT POST IS 6 MONTHS OLD!

Spikeofjaps · 12-09-2009

Im annoyed that dangrash abilities death pact and finger of death are nearly useless unless you play noremal(for death pact taht is) could you make finger attack at least 3 units to make it more useable. Only thing i ever use it on now are boats.

Daogin · 12-09-2009

Finger is good for a few things though i miss being able to lame towers with it, and a skill thats better then the conversion one would be nice but its up to leo

Myth)I(Jason · 12-10-2009

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Originally Posted by Spikeofjaps

Im annoyed that dangrash abilities death pact and finger of death are nearly useless unless you play noremal(for death pact taht is) could you make finger attack at least 3 units to make it more useable. Only thing i ever use it on now are boats.

u can use death pact on sludge right ?

shocker · 12-10-2009

the sludge has 2500 hp why would u use it on that? Also u cant use holy light 2 damage it so im guessing no.

ArkhanIV · 12-10-2009

He meant sludgues at Hellmouth shock, but even so a spell that only works on one unit is obviously pointless and useless.

Blackrockorc · 12-19-2009

both preist start with same amount of mana, high preist(75/250) and preist(75/175). high preist should start with more mana being that his spells are more costly, mabey high preist should initially cast innerfire as opposed to heal like there weaker counterpart.

Myth)I(Jason · 12-19-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by shocker

the sludge has 2500 hp why would u use it on that? Also u cant use holy light 2 damage it so im guessing no.

Actually you can , i just tried it

Blackrockorc · 12-20-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myth)I(Jason

Actually you can , i just tried it

i dont mean to step on anyones foot but ah........ you cant heal anciets, thust making the person in the quote give false info

aMaYa · 12-20-2009

of course finger of death work on sludge ! i do it everytime i play dangrash

Blackrockorc · 12-20-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by aMaYa

of course finger of death work on sludge ! i do it everytime i play dangrash

i was refering to the holy light

ArkhanIV · 12-20-2009

myth jason never said anything about healing ancients he said finger of death works on sludge

shocker · 12-20-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myth)I(Jason

Quote:

Originally Posted by shocker

the sludge has 2500 hp why would u use it on that? Also u cant use holy light 2 damage it so im guessing no.

Actually you can , i just tried it

how is that not talking about holy light?

Blackrockorc · 12-21-2009

ITS MAKRED AS an ANCIENT

ArkhanIV · 12-21-2009

Ah didnt know it was marked as an ancient when i see sludge i see SLUDGE use the popular term and it helps keep confussion to a minimum, and eliminates multiple useless posts.

Blackrockorc · 12-22-2009

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Originally Posted by blackrockorc

both preist start with same amount of mana, high preist(75/250) and preist(75/175). High preist should start with more mana being that his spells are more costly, mabey high preist should initially cast innerfire as opposed to heal like there weaker counterpart.

bump!!!

double bumppp LEOOOOOO CHANNNG DISSSSS make hi prist start wit more mana

Blackrockorc · 12-24-2009

mobile artillary is faster than all other seige, i think they should all be same speed.

ArkhanIV · 12-24-2009

why black it is an engine driven machine unlike the others

Blackrockorc · 12-24-2009

i guess that makes sense

ArkhanIV · 12-25-2009

WOOHOO I made sense :P Merry Christmas all and to all of you who don't celebrate it TOO BAD lol jk happy HOLIDAYS.

TheGodKingXerxes · 12-26-2009

old account works again ftw.

tomash · 12-28-2009

king weakining wardens didnt work well they are bad now increase tere damage a bit more or lower price to 180-220g each please

luigi_fan64 · 12-29-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by shocker

how is that not talking about holy light?

Actually if anyone was paying attention you would see he was referring to death pact, that he tried death pact upon the sludge, and not holy light. Whether it actually worked i do not know.

ArkhanIV · 12-29-2009

lol wardeMs are fine you just cant mass them alone which was the whole goal he doesnt want one unit to win games alone.

I dont think people will ever get it.

frogmaniac · 01-02-2010

plz plz plz nerf blitz images by takin away crit

Blackrockorc · 01-02-2010

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Originally Posted by frogmaniac

plz plz plz nerf blitz images by takin away crit

ya i think that should be removed, how bout blitz get serpent ward as a spell, the serpent ward model is a hidden model.

Spikeofjaps · 01-07-2010

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Originally Posted by ArkhanIV

lol wardeMs are fine you just cant mass them alone which was the whole goal he doesnt want one unit to win games alone.

I dont think people will ever get it.

I did ok with glentol after he changed the wardens, i had like a spawn of 4 wardens 3 archers and 4 huntress, i dont like demon hunters, especially since its a primarily ranged base. Anyway, i didnt do half bad so i dont think theres a problem with the base at all. I'm not sure if the moon glaive works with the huntress tho and they should have better health i think since they ride a animal should be harder to kill.

Spikeofjaps · 01-09-2010

Played glentol again today, the moon glaive on huntress does work just hard to see... but i think the huntress still should get a little more health since its madke like a up front taking all the shots units. Also had an idea... what if different main bases had unit specific upgrades... like for huntress to bounce more units or have upgrades for like support spells to make them stronger maybe... whatever just an idea.

shocker · 01-09-2010

upgrades that effect only the units at that base are pointless.

now say cel danel had a markmenship upgrade (+3 damage to all archer units)

and gelton had a archer agility upgrade (10% evation for all archer units)

That would be good. But a upgrade that only works on hunts is kinda pointless. Also if cross base upgrades are added, if you lose the base you should lose the upgrades.

11-19-2009	#202
Daogin Join Date: May 2009 Location: London Ontario Posts: 1,544	Re: Balance Issues I could kill u with dragon and hero. __________________ http://pollama.com/vadarian-wars/ < VISIT CHECK IT OUT AND OFFER OPINIONS AND FEED BACK <3! In BA the base is only as good as the player so don't complain : D!

11-20-2009	#203
shocker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,216 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Balance Issues why would you kill glentol with a dragon? If they only have melee you can kill them with ships, and its faster. (yes its possable, and funny when noobs bitch and complain wanting 2 know how u did it) I get a felling that one game im gona get attaked by 11 dragons... Dao the point is only dragon no hero's unless it can fly. Can you possess harppies? Not sure if u can possess air units. __________________ Tired of the current BA heros? Post ideas for new heros, or just an ideal for a spell for a hero. http://pollama.com/broken-alliances/...s-added-11779/ Also post about heros that have allready been made which most likely will be added. http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

11-20-2009	#204
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues Dragon wars have officially been declared on THE SOCK!! This should be a BA community event.

12-04-2009	#205
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: Balance Issues From the changelog... Heroes can't be targeted? If so thats pretty stupid, theres nothing wrong with targeting, people just whine a lot about it because its a cheap, but effective strat that should be done

12-04-2009	#206
Daogin Join Date: May 2009 Location: London Ontario Posts: 1,544	Re: Balance Issues heros arent automatically targeted. you have to manually target them with ur units. __________________ http://pollama.com/vadarian-wars/ < VISIT CHECK IT OUT AND OFFER OPINIONS AND FEED BACK <3! In BA the base is only as good as the player so don't complain : D!

12-04-2009	#207
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: Balance Issues Duh.. I know that, that wasn't my question -.-

12-08-2009	#209
shocker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,216 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Balance Issues hey guess what.... THAT POST IS 6 MONTHS OLD! __________________ Tired of the current BA heros? Post ideas for new heros, or just an ideal for a spell for a hero. http://pollama.com/broken-alliances/...s-added-11779/ Also post about heros that have allready been made which most likely will be added. http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

12-09-2009	#210
Spikeofjaps Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 98	Re: Balance Issues Im annoyed that dangrash abilities death pact and finger of death are nearly useless unless you play noremal(for death pact taht is) could you make finger attack at least 3 units to make it more useable. Only thing i ever use it on now are boats.

12-09-2009	#211
Daogin Join Date: May 2009 Location: London Ontario Posts: 1,544	Re: Balance Issues Finger is good for a few things though i miss being able to lame towers with it, and a skill thats better then the conversion one would be nice but its up to leo __________________ http://pollama.com/vadarian-wars/ < VISIT CHECK IT OUT AND OFFER OPINIONS AND FEED BACK <3! In BA the base is only as good as the player so don't complain : D!

12-10-2009	#213
shocker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,216 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Balance Issues the sludge has 2500 hp why would u use it on that? Also u cant use holy light 2 damage it so im guessing no. __________________ Tired of the current BA heros? Post ideas for new heros, or just an ideal for a spell for a hero. http://pollama.com/broken-alliances/...s-added-11779/ Also post about heros that have allready been made which most likely will be added. http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

12-10-2009	#214
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues He meant sludgues at Hellmouth shock, but even so a spell that only works on one unit is obviously pointless and useless.

12-19-2009	#215
Blackrockorc Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: York PA, Posts: 310	Re: Balance Issues both preist start with same amount of mana, high preist(75/250) and preist(75/175). high preist should start with more mana being that his spells are more costly, mabey high preist should initially cast innerfire as opposed to heal like there weaker counterpart.

12-20-2009	#218
aMaYa Join Date: May 2009 Location: FRANCE -PARIS Posts: 60	Re: Balance Issues of course finger of death work on sludge ! i do it everytime i play dangrash

12-20-2009	#220
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues myth jason never said anything about healing ancients he said finger of death works on sludge

12-21-2009	#222
Blackrockorc Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: York PA, Posts: 310	Re: Balance Issues ITS MAKRED AS an ANCIENT

12-21-2009	#223
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues Ah didnt know it was marked as an ancient when i see sludge i see SLUDGE use the popular term and it helps keep confussion to a minimum, and eliminates multiple useless posts.

12-24-2009	#225
Blackrockorc Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: York PA, Posts: 310	Re: Balance Issues mobile artillary is faster than all other seige, i think they should all be same speed.

12-24-2009	#226
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues why black it is an engine driven machine unlike the others

12-24-2009	#227
Blackrockorc Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: York PA, Posts: 310	Re: Balance Issues i guess that makes sense

12-25-2009	#228
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues WOOHOO I made sense :P Merry Christmas all and to all of you who don't celebrate it TOO BAD lol jk happy HOLIDAYS.

12-26-2009	#229
TheGodKingXerxes Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: York,PA Posts: 227	Re: Balance Issues old account works again ftw. __________________ I always thought i was brown

12-28-2009	#230
tomash Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Balance Issues king weakining wardens didnt work well they are bad now increase tere damage a bit more or lower price to 180-220g each please

12-29-2009	#232
ArkhanIV Join Date: May 2009 Location: where it is cold Posts: 444	Re: Balance Issues lol wardeMs are fine you just cant mass them alone which was the whole goal he doesnt want one unit to win games alone. I dont think people will ever get it.

01-02-2010	#233
frogmaniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 34	Re: Balance Issues plz plz plz nerf blitz images by takin away crit

01-09-2010	#236
Spikeofjaps Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 98	Re: Balance Issues Played glentol again today, the moon glaive on huntress does work just hard to see... but i think the huntress still should get a little more health since its madke like a up front taking all the shots units. Also had an idea... what if different main bases had unit specific upgrades... like for huntress to bounce more units or have upgrades for like support spells to make them stronger maybe... whatever just an idea.

01-09-2010	#237
shocker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,216 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Balance Issues upgrades that effect only the units at that base are pointless. now say cel danel had a markmenship upgrade (+3 damage to all archer units) and gelton had a archer agility upgrade (10% evation for all archer units) That would be good. But a upgrade that only works on hunts is kinda pointless. Also if cross base upgrades are added, if you lose the base you should lose the upgrades. __________________ Tired of the current BA heros? Post ideas for new heros, or just an ideal for a spell for a hero. http://pollama.com/broken-alliances/...s-added-11779/ Also post about heros that have allready been made which most likely will be added. http://pollama.com/shock-socks-hero-shop/

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